Posts by Doubtfully Yours

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What religions/organizations aren't a cult?

by Jules Saturn in

so we've already established that most religions can be classified as high control groups, we can name the wbts, church of scientology, lds, etc.

the list goes on and on.

but are there any religions or organizations that aren't classified as a high control group or aren't as bad as the ones i've just mentioned?

Doubtfully Yours

Cult + Time = Religion. Thus say some religious scholars.

Not all cults are bad, say others.

Political parties are cults. We can easily see how the rabid base of the GOP will follow their dear leader no matter what.

DY

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Latest Study Watchtower - JW's NEED to confess to elders

by The Fall Guy in

watchtower november 2017, page 10, paragraph 8 - "today, a christian guilty of serious sin needs to seek the help of congregation elders to recover.

) why is this so important?

first, the arrangement for elders to handle cases of serious sin comes from jehovah, (2nd lie!

Doubtfully Yours

I shall not trust, much less confess anything to mere imperfect humans such as myself. Poor fools think they have been appointed by God, with special curative powers.

Many a JW are of this opinion.

DY

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What are your beliefs now, religious/non religious?

by Jules Saturn in

what are your convictions now that you are no longer one of jehovah's witnesses?

are you a born again christian?

have you joined another denomination of christianity?

Doubtfully Yours

I love my friends and relatives, so I sacrifice time, energy and resources in this religious organization. There's a lot of good in it, so I accentuate that and keep on going.

I believe ALL religions please and also anger Deities in some way. The WTBTS is just one more religion in search of God, fooling themselves by asserting that they're the only truth.

DY

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Russia Moves to Declare the Bible “Extremist”

by NikL in

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friends

sorry if this has been mentioned already.. https://www.jw.org/en/news/legal/by-region/russia/hearing-bible-extremist-20170727/.

kind of misleading headline.

it's the nwt version they want to label as extremist not the bible itself.. for those that don't want to go to that obnoxious website, here is the text.... russia moves to declare the bible “extremist”.

Doubtfully Yours

The Bible and the Quran both are extremist holy texts, ALL translations.

Some scholars have claimed the Quran is nothing more than Biblical plagarism.

DY

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Marry only in the Lord

by Jules Saturn in

the second half of 1 corinthians 7:39 reads "...she is free to be married to whomever she wants, only in the lord.".

so we all know that scripture for being doctrine for witnesses when they select a marriage mate and how they are strictly encouraged to marry amongst themselves and look down upon or marked if they marry an outsider.

i have a friend who met a worldly man and when it came to light, her father gave her the option to end the relationship or to marry him, and she chose the latter.

Doubtfully Yours

Sad for sisters that want to comply with this biblical mandate. Tough, as there are about 20 females for every available and marriage-worthy male.

I only hope they make the best position choice in case they choose among outsiders. No like this girl that went outside and got with a bump that knocked her up and she's now back at the KH, abandoned. Not well educated, her future looks grim.

Marriage is tough either way. Best to choose someone with whom there's lots in common.

DY

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JWs Reaction to BBC Report

by Phoebe in

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for months i have been telling my friends - very devout jws - about the problem of child abuse in the organization but it wasn't until they saw the bbc report that they finally believed it.

(i made mention of their reaction in an earlier post.).

today they have emailed me to say the bbc report has hit them really hard.

Doubtfully Yours

This type of exposure will trigger policy changes.

DY

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I was impressed by part of today's symposium entitled ' Safeguard your children from what is evil'

by UnshackleTheChains in

well i have to give credit where credit is due.

it was the part of today's symposium - build a house that will endure.

the part i was most impressed with was 'safeguard your children from "what is evil".

Doubtfully Yours

UTC,

In the Spanish RC too, the speaker spelled it out loud and clear about the responsibility parents have and how to spot people that might want to hurt your child. I felt a talk like this one was long overdue and should be given at every assembly, and even made into a public talk on Sundays.

I see in the Spanish side that parents are very trusting of everyone, and many parents (no education, perhaps without legal papers) have to work so many hours just to make a living; then they keep having children they cannot care properly for, so they start trusting just about anyone as long as they are JWs, and that's a danger right there.

This type of public talk deserves much publicity and repetition until parents understand how to properly care for their young.

Then again, if the abuse comes from within the child's own home, how can that be the Org's fault?

Change their policy to turn all accused abusers to the secular authorities and they have a winner!

DY

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1 Timothy 6:1: One of the funniest verses in the Bible that reveals its very shortsighted human authorship.

by Island Man in

let those who are under the yoke of slavery keep on considering their owners worthy of full honor, so that the name of god and the teaching may never be spoken of injuriously - 1 timothy 6:1. .

yes, you've read correctly.

it's not the fact that the author condones slavery and never tells his readers that it's bad to own slaves - it's not that that will bring reproach on the religion, no!

Doubtfully Yours

Oh, the word of God...

If we guided ourselves by it, slavery would be alive and well here and in every other 'Christian' nation.

DY

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Cognitive dissonance and mental gymnastics in social media!

by stuckinarut2 in

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so over the last few years, the witnesses i know (who were close friends in the past) who follow me on instagram social media have been steadily dropping off and blocking me..... but there are a small number who are still friends.. i have noticed one sad situation for one friend who is clearly battling cognitive dissonance.

if she posts a picture and i leave a nice comment on it, my comment quickly disappears.

(she must delete it i guess) but then soon after she sends a nice private message asking how we are, or commenting on the post or activity.

Doubtfully Yours

It's rough being awakened to the WTBTS bs, but still having to play it cool so that we do not lose our family and friends that are trapped within this religious org.

Please excuse us, but we cannot risk losing our loved ones.

DY

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"It Wouldnt Be Possible Without The Holy Spirit" - And Why Today I Learned Why That's A Load Of Crap

by pale.emperor in

remember when we were jws and we'd hear from the platform, in conventions and on jw broadcasting that the things jws have achieved could only be possible with the help of the holy spirit?

yeah, well, i used to believe that when i was "in".

since leaving we all know this is bs, but today a simple, non religious, conversation lead me to see how stupid their claim is.. in my attempt to meet people and make friends i joined an international meetup group online a few months ago.

Doubtfully Yours

The Holy Spirit misguided the WTBTS to think and publish that 1975 was the time of the end.

Oh, 3rd God Holy Spirit, you sure have been wrong a lot in our human affairs...

DY